Open Q+A

Looks like we're alive. Let's see here. Howdy. Everybody play a little bit for you and we'll talk for talk for a little bit. Happy Friday everyone. Hope you're doing excellent out there, Tim, to Good to see you, Dean. Good to see you, rich. How you doing, brother? Patrick, Robin, we'll talk about that in a second. Tonic. Always good to see you, my friend. Um, all right, so maybe you know this, maybe you don't, maybe you joined, um, somewhere in the middle, but, oh, Jason, good to see you, sir. Um, but these masterclass sessions, uh, are six months old, I believe today. Six months of these. And I haven't gone back and counted, but I would, I would say that there's probably, I don't know, 50, 60, 70 of these, like a lot. So for anybody out there that hasn't, um, gone back into the library of these masterclasses, you should because you'll have access to them forever. Um, in fact, I was even considering making these into kind of like a bundle and, um, packaging them together, uh, all these historical ones. 'cause I don't want them to just, you know, to just die and have no one ever watch them. So, bill, good to see you. Wow, you got people tuning in. Great. So that's a big deal. So last night we tried something a little different and that was, we, we, uh, didn't do this streamy yard thing like we're doing now where instruction is on camera. And then you have kind of like the YouTube style chat on the side. We did a Zoom format and we did it with our friend Randy Adams doing a Grateful Dead, uh, inspired session. Now, Randy did the handwritten charts that you'll find in the Grateful Dead Rhythm Section Workshop. So for also, for those of you that haven't dug into that, it's very cool. The rhythm section workshop is one of the things I most, um, uh, you, you know, it's an interesting thing because in my videos you get to see me kind of struggle a little bit, and I left that in there because I want you all to know that you know these, it's not easy, you know, you have to spend a long time with these tunes to get them under your fingers. Um, but Randy has spent decades and decades learning this music. And so even when I approached him and said, Hey, can you chart out these charts for, you know, the way this band does it? He was like, sure, no problem. And of course, it stuck to all the different iconic parts and, and all that. But if anybody that hasn't checked that out, that's very, very cool, because you can play along with so many great dead tunes and isolate just the drums and bass drums, bass and keys, or the full band with guitar so you can learn the parts and try to play it. Anyhow, so I had an idea that, you know, we would do this, uh, style lesson with Randy last night, and it was our first one and, um, I think 10 of us or so joined, and I thought it went really, really well. And so I would very much, if anybody that was there, uh, would like to talk about it or has any feedback on that, I would love to hear it. If anybody would love to, to join on screen again, feel free to hit that join on screen button and yeah, tonic. I appreciate that. Yeah, the r the, the Rs Ws as as we, when I went to music school in GIT yes, you learned all the things that we have to learn, you know, your scales and your triads and, and all the nuts and bolts of music theory, et cetera. But the meat and potatoes, the, the thing that made you good, if you, for lack of a better word, you know, um, were these rhythm section workshops. And the idea was very simple. You had to learn a song and you had to play it with people you've never played with before in front of all your peers. And you had to do that 10 times. It was a week in 10 different genres before YouTube. So you would get the chart and it would be, you know, it could be a mega death song for the medal, the metal one. You could get the, you for an Albert King, one for the Blues one, they had a reggae one, a funk one, a jazz one. But you had to do 10 different ones a week for two years, and each time with people you didn't know. And if that doesn't get your butt to shape, nothing will. And so I realized, obviously I can't achieve something like that online, but it, it, it was the best thing that I could come up with. And that's hire a great band with songs we love and, you know, let them do their thing, improvise rhythm and lead parts, and then get it charted out and then provide you the stems to remove instruments and add instruments so you can practice playing along with it. Very cool. Anyway, if anybody hasn't checked it out, check that out. But Randy did this thing last night, and I thought he did a great job. So yes, the jazz rs ws were my least favorite. Um, yes, they were my most. I get so much s**t for that. I got, I got a bunch of s**t for that. But you know what, though, it join, it, it, it warmed the deepest cockles of my heart. I I know it's kind of, this is an open forum and I'll get to your questions in a second, but these are these, the story time is fun too, is you would get people from all different backgrounds and you would get people who had all different experience levels in a bunch of different genres. And that's kind of the point of the 10 of these different genre things is, is to not, it, it, it's to let you show your strengths and let everybody like to like, give you that attaboy like, you know, and let you strut. Because everybody, there's grape, but it's also to completely and totally humble you in ways that you probably didn't anticipate, and then you have to build up. And so, yes, the jazz ones were, I, I mean, I basically fell on my face all the time. And like these people that grew up playing this music would, um, I wouldn't go so far as to say like laugh right in your face, but you could tell that they did not think you were like a serious musician, right? But then what would happen is you'd put those people in like a simple blues and funk jam or like a country thing, and they got nothing for you, right? Completely not memorable. And then they give you that look back, like, oh, okay, I, I see like maybe you just grew up playing one four fives and uh, okay, now we're, now we're, we're seeing each other in the same light. And so just on a, I loved that part of it because, um, yeah, I suck at playing jazz. But anyway, um, well, where was I going with that? Okay, so what I want today to be is an open forum. I would love to know your reflection on the past six months or however long you've been here doing this, how you feel about checking in live regularly. Does it help you? Does it, does it make it harder? Uh, what are you working on? How can I help you? I very much want this to be a recap of, um, you know, whatever you want it to be. So I'll kind of start at the top here. Um, yeah, it was a great session. It was very cool. Dean would love to be able to put something like that together. Are you talking about the progression in the beginning? What this is Dean is simple. This is 5, 4, 1, Right? So a major G major, but then for one, which is D okay, I am just simply putting the F sharp in the base with my thumb. So that's, so it gives you this baseline, right? Very, very cool. So all I did, all I was doing, there was a mix between single note lines. Here, I'll, I'll, I'll play it. So 5, 4, 1 first inversion. So you should be able to just triads different places, right? Go up. So that's step one. And then little easy melodies for each one. And then I was doing a couple little double stops. These are just pieces of chords with the middle note missing, right? D So like, if I'm on a here, I go up like this for G because it's just that without the middle. No. So that's kind of what I was doing there. All right, let's, uh, let's see. Uh, I'm still going back. So good to hear the remainder available. Yes. I will not delete them. Um, I will not delete them. Okay. Uh, yes, jazz plus Mega Death is Alex Skolnik and you know, Marty Friedman. And, and before him, um, Chris Poland was a, apparently a tremendous jazz player, which is so interesting to me. Um, but then again, like I can, I can hear it, but those people, this is its own conversation. It could be its own YouTube video, but very rarely in my experience, do you, do you find people who really have their own voice, recognizable voice in multiple genres, you know what I mean? Like Stevie Ray Vaughan sounds like Stevie Ray Vaughan. He's, he's got the Texas Blues thing. Regardless what changes he's playing over, right? You get the idea. Um, very rarely do you get people, like people come to mind where they really sound like themselves. Like they have a, an identifiable vocabulary that's different for different genres. Very rare. Okay, Patrick just gonna say, I love the new masterclass schedule. A couple a week is much more manageable and it's great to be able to keep up with everyone and not have to pick at least who I wanna pull something from. Five days a week was a lot. And I felt like I needed to be on all of them. I know that's not how it was meant to be, but felt like I needed to Patrick. That's why we made the change. Um, it so many people, including the instructors, felt like it was too much. It's so easy for someone in my position to just think more is better, but it's not always better. And I think having something like just even one live weekly check-in where it's open, even if it's, even if it's just something above you working through a course or receiving like a lesson in an email, if there's just one thing a week even that's just one thing above that, I think it makes a big difference in keeping the engagement up and keeping everybody excited, um, and having something to look forward to. But as soon as it starts to feel like a, a burden or the expectation is unreachable, like a lot of things in life, we missed the mark and I apologize for that. But all we can do is try. Speaking of jazz metal, pat Boone's in a metal mood is pretty funny. And actually stellar musicianship. I believe that. I believe that. Matt, welcome dude, good to see you. I've made a few connections that I knew I needed to make, but wasn't sure how to cement it in my head. I also have had a two to three aha moments for stuff I hadn't considered. For what it's worth. I'm seeing great value and time spent and gains made. Truly appreciate you and all the instructors, man, I appreciate that. I, I will, I will also admit, um, I've had a couple aha moments that I, um, did not see coming, but that I wanted to, specifically for me, just Jack's explanation and tasteful usage of little diminished things, just in little connective pieces. Um, I don't want you guys to get discouraged, like, and think that everything is fast for people like me or Jack or anybody. You might look, you know, learn from or, or aspire to be, to play. Like, like it, everything happens the same way for all of us. It's, we don't know why we don't get it. We don't know why we don't get it. We try, we don't know why we don't get it. We put it down, we pick it up, we're frustrated. And then one day, one day there's the light bulb, and then you can't imagine not seeing it. It just, whether it's, whether it's your first major scale, the first like pedal steel lick that you finally got in tune, um, you know, your first time being able to connect all the cord shapes and like getting the cage system. It just, that's how it happens. And, and I, and I remember like, again, being in GIT not knowing any theory or knowing how to read, and it just being so difficult for me all of the time, um, to do any of the mental gymnastics. Uh, and then, and even easy aha moments. Um, like, like, like what I was saying before, like if it's an A, it's got a C and an E in it, right? If it's got a C, it's an E and a G, just like those clusters. Like, oh yeah, duh, of course they all just go together, right? FA, c, a, c, E, like C, E, G, D, FA, even things like that. It was just like memorize like that took six months before I had that aha moment, even though I had heard it so many times. But then as soon as you have one of those, it's just like, you know, you have it in there forever. So I'm so glad that you got a couple of those out in the six months period. 'cause that's actually like a lot. That's good. That's really good. Okay. Bill, as a recent member of these classes are huge. I've gotten to where I need to put the varying times in my phone, make certain I don't miss, but there's been something to take away from every class. Keep at it. Bill, have you used the calendar thing? We've been sending emails out since the beginning with a calendar link. Um, or just a reminder, um, for when these are, so you don't have to manually put them in your phone. Um, but, uh, either way, I'm glad that you do it. That accountability is big. Seems like Zoom is a better platform, but I think we may move away from that, but MP would need to verify that. Yeah. Okay. So there are going to be some changes afoot for sure. I immediately felt last night that Zoom worked better. One of the big things that we noticed on here, even though, you know, there's a join on screen button on the Guitar Gate page, um, basically after the first two weeks, everybody stopped using it. And, um, I think, I think the frequency of the lessons and the intimidation factor added to that, 'cause everybody's like, well, I still don't know what we did last week. I don't, I mean, I'm still way, like there's no way I'm joining on screen or for whatever. So the zoom with the default being that everybody's on screen, uh, I think is better. The, the flip side to that is, is that if we have more than 10 or so people, um, it probably gets really, really hairy. And I, it would be great to be able to not limit these. So, um, I know that Zoom has lots of extra functions and like, you know, Tony Robbins had like a stadium full of Zoom and, and you know, so there are, there are options. So the point is, I did, like last night, I do think it's better, and I do think we're gonna make a change. Uh, Matt, I had a jazz teacher, 2000, 11 to 13, learned a ton of chord extensions, substitutions. Some of the things he said to me, made it straight to the bank, others clicked working through things here. It takes a minute for it to connect. Practicing, practicing music is meditative and an exercise in repetition. That's exactly right. It is about repetition over and over and over again. Um, and you know, that's, that's true. And it's, and it's, and it's, it's, um, it's really evident again, when you get stuck in a genre for a while. Like, I think we all expect to be able to learn theory and, uh, just have phrasing and a and a deep under an ability to play through any type of genre and music that we like. And of course that is true, but it takes a long time and a lot of repetition to develop the vocabulary and the confidence with that vocabulary that phrasing for each genre. It's why, like I mentioned before, you get a lot of blues, country metal people like myself that just like don't have the jazz freezing, right? It's just like, I, I understand the theory, like I went to music school, like, I get it, but like, I don't, I don't, I haven't listened to kind of blue 500 times and learned all the parts. I haven't done the work, you know, but I have listened to Texas flood 500 times and gone through, you know what I mean? So it's, it's just the way it works. So, you know, the repetition is key. And looking, it brings up another point. I'm trying not to get sidetracked, but for those of you that maybe saw it, um, I had tomo, uh, Tomo Fujita on, uh, a YouTube live stream a year ago, two years ago, I don't know. And he said two things that he gives, gives to all his students at Berkeley. He gives it all the same two things. When they come in the room for the first time, he says, one, stop practicing with effects. Practice clean. That's it. And number two, get rid of your Spotify. Get rid of your YouTube music playlist. Give yourself a few, I think he said two or three albums. That's it. And listen to one whole album at a time and immerse yourself in it. Learn all the songs, listen to all the parts. Immerse yourself in that one band's phrasing that musicians playing. And and if you're, if you're practicing that, listen to that in the car. Like, do not allow all these other things to come in your brain at the same time. 'cause you'll only get this little piece, right? It, it'd be the equivalent of, you know, if you, if you went to Italy to learn Italian cooking for a week, and that's all you did, you just immersed yourself in it, ex ex instead of like going to like a single cooking class and then going to a Spanish cooking class and then going, you see what I'm getting at? Like, you have to const, you have to, it takes time and repetition of the same thing to truly absorb, you know, what would otherwise just be, oh yeah, it's just a 1, 4, 5 and e but it's so different for the different genres. So that's huge bit of a tangent, but that is exceptional advice. And when you feel like you've worn that album out and you can't listen to it anymore, and you've learned all the songs and you know all the solos, like you know that thing, then go pick another one. And oh, by the way, this is how your favorite players got so great because they didn't have any money to go and buy a thousand different records. They didn't have it on their phones, they didn't have all these things, right? So they saved their money and they bought one record, what, every two weeks or a month or whatever the frequency was and they wore it out. That is such an important integral piece to developing your sound that is just so overlooked in the fire hose of content, you know, era that we're in. Anyhow, okay, let's see. Uh, second, the move to Zoom, only negative I see regularly is that players need to change the sound setting to original sound. Woo. What does original sound do? I'm not certain. Um, but one thing that people do need to do is remember that they have to mute themselves when not on the zoom. I think most of us probably have Zoom meetings for work. Uh, and even if you don't, you had plenty of them during Covid, and so you probably know all about like, you know, wear pants and mute yourself. But, uh, you know, so, um, bill Sonora runs with 50 to 70 pick up music runs with 30 to 50. It works with your own assets and with the instructors you have. These are numbers you will see. Interesting, interesting, interesting. Well that, let me ask you that. What is the frequency and is it always the same instructor? Do you sign up with the one instructor? Can you, bill, can you explain how it works, um, on that level? I'm deeply interested. Yes. Sonic overload kind of blue is amazing. So is Texas flood? I love kind of blue, but like I said, I haven't, I haven't worn it out with the guitar in my hands. Like Van Halen won. Maybe I will. That's how I learned tunes for bands. I played in, created a list of tunes for our sets, and that was all I listened to for weeks gets embedded in the gray matter. Exactly. That's the, I'm telling you, even when you're not learning it, that's what you listen to in the car when you go to the gym, that's what you listen to at the gym. That, that is such an important piece. And it's so interesting because in previous, you know, in pre-internet times, right, pre-social media times when music was attached to a dollar amount, right? You more music equaled more money and you had to go to a store to get it right. It was something that you bought. You, you just by default didn't have that much. And, and so by default, whatever you cho chose to spend your time and money on, it was like all of it, and it was everything to you. Nowadays, it's like within 15 seconds if like just swipe, swipe, swipe. And it like, and, and that's how you get so many, like technically great players that don't say anything and don't have any songs because it's like, in my opinion, it's a byproduct of not growing up that way. I don't know, not trying to do a get off my lawn series, but, but, um, I'm, it's tremendous advice. It's tremendous advice. Okay. Uh, all those settings can be left. Meeting sound is fine. Muting is etiquette. That is learned. That's right. That's right. Um, pick up, puts out a sign up email. Monday mornings typically to sign up for morning or afternoon classes. That day. That day. So, so there's no like calendar set. It's just like, Hey, we're going live at two today. Here's the zoom link, join if you can, and I'm sure they record it too. Um, Sonora, you first have to sell your children or refire your home, then you go to Zoom. That's funny. That's funny. Um, I think rec, yeah, recording and posting the zoom is absolutely possible. Yeah. Nightly top 10 list and a tape deck making mixed tapes carefully crafted over a few nights. Yeah. Mixed tapes were a thing because you couldn't afford to just go buy all the records, you know, and it's a crazy thing that happens. Yeah. Each class is recorded and posted for viewing. Maybe I'll do that. Maybe I'll, maybe I'll just make a, a, you know, you know, a Guitar Gate Zoom account and, and, um, just send it out in a blast and see how many people show up. I don't know. We'll see. Um, yes, changes to who the instructors will be moving forward. Yes, there will be. Um, I am working on that. I just like you all, um, I, I told them, uh, it, we all agreed to a six month deal. Um, and then I was going to think about getting someone who is an acoustic player, someone who's a slide player, but again, you know, I, um, I would, you know, I wanna find the right, right way to pace it out. And maybe it's not all of the same people all the time. Maybe I just regularly invite guests and pay them well and, you know, and there's not like a long commitment. I, I can tell you that, that, you know, especially with players that gig a lot, the commitment is difficult. But the other big one is the, is the actual technology part. It's just like the issues with people being in places with bad internet, bad cameras or whatever is just really aggravating and it reflects poorly on me. And, um, there's not much I can do about it. So, uh, oh, I say all that to say that increased flexibility and different kinds of instructors instead of the same ones over and over again is kind of where my head's at. So I will, I will, I will be sharing all that with you. Um, when I figure out what I'm gonna do, uh, pickup typically runs a class for two a week. Sonora, three plus your me. Okay. So you get private lessons with one-on-one plus one or two group classes a week. Yeah, well that's why it costs so much because it's, you get one, you get one-on-one every week. Um, yes, tonic. I want to keep Lyle too very much. I love Jamie too. Love the rhythm. I see that. See Ron, I love having someone so deeply focused on the rhythm too. Um, I agree. I agree with the, when you were younger, I'm having to relearn music perception completely. It was humbling once I figured that out, embarrassing with the things I've posted, but feels good hearing progress. Couldn't agree more. And I'm so glad to hear you say that. Yeah, Jamie is great too. They're all great. They're all, they're all, they're all great. Um, so anyway, I will keep those posted. So what is everyone working on? What is something that you would like to hear me talk about or show? Um, you're more than welcome to join me on screen if you would like, the floor is yours while you guys think I will play a little bit more Happy Friday. Trying something there. Screw that one up. All right, let's see here. Different topic, everything about a gathering of some type man. Yes. Would you, okay. 'cause tonic and I have talked about this a few times and I keep telling him, circle back with me. Circle back with me. Life's insane. Life's insane. And the truth is that that's true, but it's also, um, me putting off something that I, in my gut feel like people would attend. So would you, if I had, if I had, I don't know how many people, 15, 20, 25, I don't know if I had some type of guitar gate get together like on the east coast, like I'm in Baltimore, like DC or whatever, and put something together where we had some playing workshops, we had a band thing. Maybe I could work out like a tour of PRS with that, um, for like a weekend. I have no idea what it would cost. I'm sure it would be a thousand dollars or $1,200. I don't know. Um, but um, would you do it? I don't know, because that would be awesome. I would love work could be like somewhere easier like in Nashville where it's like, okay, we're in Nashville for a weekend and you know, maybe we, you know, rent a, rent a space out for two hours a day for two days and then we just, you know, go out on Broadway each night and check out all the bands. We could do that, you know, um, lots of good ideas, but yeah, thinking about it, um, I've been applying your workout to finger style picking for working on Salton. Excellent. I love that. Oh look, Tim jumped in. Let's say hi to Tim. Tim, how are you sir? Can you hear me, Tim? There Doing well. How are you Doing great. Good to see you. Yes, I can hear you fine. Got any echo on your end? I do not. Do you? It is just delayed. Yes. And I can't, that's why I put my headphones on. I don't know what the problem is here. I Don't know. Well, Yeah, I just a delay. Yeah. Well either way, even if we're not synced up, I'd love to hear your thoughts or what you're working on or anything you'd like to talk about. Uh, first of all, yeah, I, I'm real happy I got involved in this. Yes. And I agree with about everybody else that it got overwhelming. I understand. Well, thank you so much for being a part of it. I know. Yeah. Uh, so I got most of the, You can go on the delays bad Anyway, I, I've been through most of the lessons and, uh, yeah. Okay. Um, so I was really looking forward to diving into the rhythm workshop. So let's, uh, let's see if I can figure out my, I will see if I can get my technical problems straightened out for next week. Okay. Next week. Okay. Sounds good. Thank you Tim. Good to see you. All right. Yeah, that delays, that delays rough Tim, the thank you for jumping on. Um, yes, jump into the rhythm section workshop. It's cool and it's different. It's not perfect and it's not easy. Um, but it's very different. It's much, um, it's much different than just, here's this exercise, play this. It's, here's a song that was improvised by a jam band. Here are the charts with the basic parts. Here's me showing you the parts and playing over it. But then you take the time to play with the full band, play with the bass, drums and keys, or just bass and drums, and you'll hear how you have to play bigger parts more if it's just the trio kind of in the middle, if you have keys in there. 'cause they're playing some of the things. But then even less if it's the full band. As a general rule of thumb, you'll find that the more pieces in a band, the less each one kind of has to do. Again, similar to cooking or anything else in life, if there's more things, each one of those things can't, like, take all the attention. It can't be everything. It gets lost. You know, the way for the sum to be greater than the parts is not for the parts to compete. All right. So, oh yeah, Matt r if someone can help me get my midi keyboard hooked up to my doll. I just got a new Mac, new interface, new MIDI keyboard, painted the room, ditched the guest bed, a hundred percent guitar and recording space life goals. Um, I love that Matt r so I don't know what the problem is. I know you and I know you're a smart guy, so it's probably something like, just make sure everything is updated and do a restart and it's gonna work. Um, Reese, I do start a music program in August at Purdue now. That's cool. Any reading material recommendations? Mm, well what is the music program about? Is it like world music? Is it a theory thing? Is it genre specific? Is it music history? Um, I, uh, you know, you know that, I mean, it's at Purdue, it could be any one of those things. Um, but as far as reading goes, ooh, I'm at a, I'm at a loss. Like are you looking for like, instructional stuff? Are you thinking like biographical? I don't know. Let me know what you're thinking. Bill. Where am I located? Yes, Seth Rosenblum knows you. Yes, he is in Boston I believe, or outskirts Massachusetts. I am in Baltimore. Seth is excellent. And I have thought about having him as a, uh, as a guest instructor on here. In fact, I would be willing to bet that, um, we have unread dms in the Instagram that, uh, are on that exact subject, which probably I have not responded to because, um, it's a mess. But, uh, he is a great player and if you, if you are taking privates with him or you have some type of ment mentee relationship, lucky you, uh, he's a tremendous player and a great guy. I was fortunate enough to have dinner with him in the, or in the north end of Boston, I don't know, two years ago, three years ago, something like that. Um, I don't know, uh, Dennis, those chords sound like, can't you see? Yep. Same basic thing. One flat seven, four or 5, 4 1. Those are the same. Those are the same basic things. Um, I wanna go to Nashville, check out guitar stores, eat barbecue, and see a live band. You know, that is the answer, isn't it? The answer, the answer is not to come to Baltimore, Maryland. The answer is to meet on location somewhere. Awesome. Except I will say that like if I did a combo with Paul Reed Smith with, I'm sure, I'm sure he'd do it, um, with a tour and like stayed in some local, uh, um, hotel like around there that, um, you know, was near a, a bar restaurant that had bands and we could have a jam. That could probably all happen. Um, and it'd probably be cheaper, but it'd probably be the most awesome. You're right. If we could go to some guitar stores, see some of the people that you see on the internet all the time, like Guthrie and Jack Play, and that's probably the answer. And so many other content creators that you follow are there? Marty Schwartz is there, Brett Papa's there, uh, Tyler Larson. Music is Win is there. Uh, and, and on and on and on. That's, you know, that's probably the answer. Um, there you go, Jason. I love it. Sold. Um, yeah, exactly. Internet latency, always. Um, yeah, C***s age. I've been to Baltimore though. Baltimore's good man. But I'm just saying like, it's, it's, it's not, it's not like you'd be, uh, we have a good time. We'd have a very good time and there's some great musicians here, but it's not like going to a place like Nashville or Austin, you know, where it's just like tons of guitar stores, like tons of, and like everybody stay downtown and, you know, if people want to do something they, you know, can do as much or as little as they want, that might be the way to do it. Um, how do you jump on the video? Like, he got you. Okay. He speaks well of you. Good. Yeah, he's the man. Just tell him that. Um, I'm a, um, I, when this is over, I'm going to look in my dms and I'm going to respond to him. I have a, i I have a memory of months ago of us going back and forth about teaching on the masterclasses and then, uh, I dropped the ball theory history, jazz recording. You missed 21 semester hours for a year long. Just a little slow. Um, man that's just all over the place. Um, I bet you Tonic has some good book recommendations. I, I tend to not read any that many, like, instructional books. Um, I love hearing about musicians, biographies and stories like that, that really excites me. Um, but generally speaking, um, I, I've consumed so many educational books in my day and I have like stacks of them over here. And, uh, there aren't ones that like really, really like, changed my life. Like listen to the records is the answer. Okay. Uh, yeah, food is great. All right, my friends. Is there anything else you'd like to kick around? I will think about that. I will think about how we could all get together, or at least some of us. Um, I've always wanted to do that. I feel like it needs a few elements. It needs obviously a hotel block, it needs, uh, live music and then it needs a gear component. Um, again, whether it's guitar shops or like, again, like a tour of PRS or if we went to Nashville we could do like a Gibson tour, right? Or you know, or something like that. Um, and these could move every time, but it would need like a couple components. Like, I never, like just the, the dry, you know, meet in a conference room, meetups, I like people to like party and have fun and put some things in their hand that perhaps they haven't before. See something that they haven't seen before. Um, so let me think about that. But that's a great idea. Um, yeah, exactly. Alright, my friends, thank you so much for tuning in. Yeah. And Jam Of course. Yeah, this ton of fun. It's the same, same thing as like when I go to Nam it's like I, I, and I kind of stopped going to Nam 'cause like, you know, what you really want to do is just go out with everybody after Nam and play music, listen to music, you know, party and get to know each other and form relationships. Like that's what, like as far as walking through the convention center and all like, that's, that's like, that's not the best part. Anyhow, I love you all. I'll see you soon and thanks so much for tuning in. Thanks so much for your honest and candid feedback. Again, if you didn't want to share anything on here on video, you can always just email me. I, um, would love to know your impressions of, uh, Randy's Zoom if you were on there. It seems like the consensus is, is that Zoom is better and people would do more. So maybe I can take a page out of the book from Sonora and the other one and gets some more guest instructors and so on and so forth. Yeah, we'll do that. All right, my friends. Cheers.